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Stark700
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ORESUKI Are you the one who loves me? (TV) Genres: comedy, romance Themes: Plot Summary:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anime adaptation of the manga. Subbed trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt3MqwiSyKY&feature=youtu.be |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 1
You know that meme Gordon Ramsay says finally some good food (with an expletive)? That is kind of how I feel with this show its starting setting. That the good boy main character with a childhood friend stuff, where there will be a love triangle and or harem. Hensuki got a little close with the whole pervert thing, but having the girls turn out to be interested in his friend, and him be not so perfect nice on the inside is kind of hitting the spot. But there still seems to be a girl, supposedly plain, and she likes his real kind of mean side. I like that. The sharp tongued "plain" girl is also just better, including the pseudo Imperial March music when going to the bench. She is also a stalker. To be fair, he is kind of a "nice guy", not the good kind. |
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Animegomaniac
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Episode
I found it funny but I just have so many questions from its format to its assumptions to its plotting. There's also the annoying habit of giving everyone nicknames as the girl with black hair and glasses doesn't strike me as "Pansy".... ah,all the girls are flower related, that's something? If Joro hid his dark side when he played the nice guy to get closer to Himawari and Cosmos then how did Pansy get wind of it? If Himawari knew what Joro was like all along as it seems like she does then why play a nice guy to someone who knows its an act? Both girls clearly ask Joro out on a date and both dress up for it only to ask him to help them with Sun.... flowers reaching for the sun... Maybe I should just give in. Ok, I get everything but the "split personality". If you're going to pull out Jekyll and Hyde for a comparison, you need to back it up with more than "he has a dark side and a sunny side". There's a hint of something with Himawari's daily greeting but I don't know. |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 2
In the second episode it got like turned around, where Sun revealed that he likes "Pansy", and after Jorou actually refuses to really help, Sun then asks both Himawari and Cosmos to help him, but attributes it to Jorou anyway, so the girls hate him. The real simple answer really looks like Pansy could turn Sun down, say she likes someone else, so one of the other girls can go after him. I can only imagine Jorou is caught up in the being totally nice that he can't see that, and Pansy may be purposefully sabotaging how the other girls see Jorou by leading it on a little. That seems a little scumbag like, but he is also a bit of a scumbag for what he is doing, but the other two girls are kind of a problem to in how they turned on Jorou so hard, leaving maybe Sun as a lone good guy. But his own act kind of what turned the other girls against him, kind of bad, but also just stupid. All the characters stupid! Not saying any of that in a bad way, it has managed to b kind of surprising so far in I imagine what has happened so far could have really been dragged out, so no idea if it will keep up this pace of weirdness. I do like how it used the so far recurring jokes of the first two episodes, the same bench, and bringing back the hallway after a baseball game event. Wonder if the last nautical direction will come into play somehow. I saw a comment brought up somewhere that it is ending up like Gamers, which does have one of my favourite mishaps of recent history of relationship love triangle and misunderstandings. |
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Animegomaniac
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Beyond thinking episode 2 was a step down, my only other comment on it is that I thought Sun was going to confess to Joro. The expectations were there, the set up... the bench... but no, the series took the easy way out.
Next episode looks like it will finish the first novel, a book where not much happens? I know it's a Light Novel but that is ridiculously "light". And then it's more books with more new characters when the series should develop the main pair and go on from there. There's already five characters and most Light Novel series of this type do very well with just a core of five by developing them rather than going the manga route of introducing new characters as a way to develop already present characters. |
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Nom De Plume De Fanboy
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Episode 3
Well, that was a pretty good drama, for a high school show. A little plot twisty, some twists depended on some things being perceived just exactly so, so to speak, but for sure not a typical comedy. This show just jumped up to top tier for writing for me, out of the 10 or so shows I'm following right now. I hope the writing holds up for the rest of the run. |
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Animegomaniac
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Episode 3. Wow, that was bad.
So... during that epic day of baseball, Pansy was both at the south and the north exit? She knew Joro was just interested in her breasts so she was able to tie them down to keep him from recognizing them/her? She hid her beauty by anime cliche? She's ok and we're supposed to be ok if Joro just likes her physical appearance... even as she spent most of the series trying to save his butt? I knew something was going wrong when Joro said he was transfixed by a girl with large breasts while standing outside at an entrance holding bags of meat for Sun... none of which makes any sense. Why would such a person get ostracized through gossip when public actions like that would be far more damaging? The only thing I'm interested in is this "mysterious" girl who started this whole mess by going to Sun because she liked Joro, a girl Joro has no curiosity about at all? Ah, next book, of course. She will be Sun's revenge somehow. Two guys, a whole army of girls and the title was already negated by episode three because of this unknown girl. I had no expectations in this series and now I have no hope. Blue ribbons are seniors, red are 11 grade, yellow are 10 and the five girls surrounding Sun's baseball pitch would be the ones around him... please don't have it all be the same game... what am I thinking? Of course it is. I think mystery girl is the underclassman with the... I don't know flowers. But she's the only one not centered around baseball... and she also has a "microphone" icon so I'm guessing she's an idol because "anime"? |
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DuskyPredator
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Was she supposed to be better when she was revealed to have large breasts, remove her geeky glasses and lose the braids? Because she is totally more attractive in her usual form, at least to me. It is why I can't understand Joro when he calls her ugly.
Who would have known that Sun was an ass? And interesting way to project a difference of Joro still has a good side despite it all, wanting his friend to be happy. Hope from here it continues to mess with the harem formulae/setting, not actually giving him a harem, pushed into weird situations and new running jokes like the hallway after the game that ended with all compass points covered. |
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Kilgamayan
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I don't think it was intended to make her "better", only to serve as the dramatic reveal, since Joro had previously mentioned the existence of the unknown bombshell beauty and had also indirectly called Sumireko out on her (seeming) lack of a figure. Unfortunately, having the ED play at the end of Episode 2 kinda screwed the pooch here, because it made it clear that Sumireko actually *did* have the figure Joro desired. Oh well, even if the audience knew, he didn't, so it was still good for his reaction.
His reaction was also interesting in that it let his true true personality slip for the second time - rather than be overjoyed that his mystery bombshell crush from long ago actually loves him back, he basically went "you might be hot but you're still an asshole", which is a remarkably deep opinion for any of these kids to hold given they're all bad people that have thought with nothing but their libidos for three episodes. (Not that this is a bad thing from a quality-of-show standpoint - high schoolers with crushes are not the most rational people on the planet. ) |
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Yttrbio
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I'm mostly wondering how she achieves that kind of... compression without a bra.
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Kilgamayan
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It looked like she removed a sarashi as part of the grand reveal.
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 4
So the episode was about making up after being arses, and kind of like things could be better between them with some of the crushes taken out. Before showing our lead still plans to try and control a relationship out, and the newspaper girl is up to something. |
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Animegomaniac
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According to episode 4, Joro still thinks Pansy's ugly so I have no idea what's going on. The way I see it, Joro is actively trying to find reasons to hate her and it's baffling. Not liking someone on sight alone is reasonable to an extent but to do so after she helped Joro's first situation... Joro's sorry excuse for reasoning: "You helped me and me spending time with you is the price we agreed upon but I resent you for it..." eats a homemade muffin... "I guess I have a reason to come back." What a dick. I hate this guy, I really hate him. I haven't seen characters this unlikable... and I'm throwing Pansy into it for taking his verbal abuse like a champion doormat... since Flowers of Evil and that one never tried to be a comedy. |
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Kilgamayan
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Joro finds Sumireko ugly because she's actively trying to look unattractive for reasons known only to her (she told Joro it was because she was hiding herself from someone, but anything she says to him about her motives for doing anything have to be taken with a mountain of salt).
I think this is a situation where the show wants/needs the audience to accept that, within this show's universe, Sumireko's 'disguised' form is not conventionally attractive. She doesn't appear that way to the audience because it would trigger the apocalypse if an anime were to actually draw a high school girl that was not conventionally attractive. >_> More seriously (though no less cynically), it is unlikely that this show would achieve the viewership and merch revenue it desires if Sumireko actually was ugly from the audience's perspective. So we all get two different attractive Sumirekos and are simply told "actually one of these is ugly", not to judge our taste, but to explain why the story is progressing the way it is. This is the path that is easiest on the viewers' eyes and the creators' wallets. Joro also doesn't like her because she calls him on the manipulative bullshit he pulls covertly while pulling that same manipulative bullshit openly. Part of that dislike is likely bitterness on Joro's part, but it is true that Sumireko is no better a person than anyone else in this love pentagon. All that being said, even after Joro's attitude reset to "gonna manipulate my way to a gf" and he was prepared to pursue Aoi and Sakura, his fantasy very notably also included Sumireko (albeit in her natural form). Between that and the muffin-eating, it's clear that what Sumireko is doing is gradually working. (FWIW my wife and I both thought the "I guess I have a second reason to keep coming here" line was super cute) |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 11
This last arc seems to have set up something interesting, finally figuring out what Pansy's deal is. Hose seems to be that perfectly innocent and nice guy that Joro was pretending to be earlier. Just such a nice guy that he can help people and draw in all the girls, such that in middle school he saved the over popular Pansy from too much attention. Hose being such the great main character guy with no ulterior motives, actually gets the crush on the popular girl, Pansy, and truly he must be the one worthy of her because he is so innocent that he does not realize the other girls that like him. Such girls also trying to help him get the girl he deserves. It feels a bit messy, but it kind of feels like a commentary on all those anime/manga/VN that try to make female characters be more worthy of a partner for the main character, someone desirable because they are so pretty and popular, but the main character is worth her because he sees past that. Like it is any measure of how fit they are together, while Pansy is not interested in him that way, and she is pressured to give good guy hose a chance, and the main character has no clue of the pressure. It does remind me of how much I hate those harem anime that go out of their way to make a female character be desirable by showing how everyone worships and thinks they are pretty, not that maybe there is more to someone's worth how much everyone else loves them. |
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