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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:51 am Reply with quote
While manufacturing errors may be rare, it's hardly uncommon for a disc to get scratched in shipment, either because it wasn't properly attached to the hub, or because the publisher cheaped out on the case (that happens a lot with complete series TV sets, where the producer tries to stuff 40 discs into as small a case as possible without making sure the discs don't rub against plastic).

You can usually catch the first problem simply by holding the case to your ear and shaking it slightly. The latter is something that often gets reported on home video forums, so you'll know you need to check out your Complete Twilight Zone set right away.
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Angel M Cazares



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:54 am Reply with quote
Regarding the question from the person who checks anime discs for errors,

When I receive a new set, and I do not plan to watch it right away, I like to at least see if they work fine. All I do is to play the discs and push the next scene function on my player to make sure all the episodes play.

It is not a thorough check, but I trust that the discs are fine. And like Justin says, if there is something really wrong with a disc, someone will post about it online.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:17 pm Reply with quote
fandompost (formerly AoD/mania.com) has a "Glitch Disc" subforum:
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/forumdisplay.php?31-Glitch-Disc
that covers a range of production issues people have encountered, almost all prior to replication though.
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GVman



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:45 pm Reply with quote
As far as Pretty Cure goes, I generally get the feeling that there's a number of folks here ready to spend oodles of money on it the moment it gets licensed. Hell, it was the only Magical Girl series I saw get discussed with any kind of regularity over the past few years.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:06 pm Reply with quote
They trialed the first season up in Canada, but given they haven't done anything else, I imagine it didn't go over too well.
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PurpleWarrior13



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:10 pm Reply with quote
Toei has nothing to do with Tokyo Mew Mew. That's Studio Pierrot.

While I don't think it could be a mega-hit, I could maybe see it picked up by Sentai for a sub-only release or something, maybe Discotek (the show is 10 years old now). It does have a fanbase here, not a very big one, but it's a popular cosplay choice, and fandubs and AMVs are pretty popular (or at least were five years ago). Also, there is some nostalgia for the 4Kids dub, which WAS successful on 4KidsTV here (by it's standards), but canceled because they could not get a toy deal for it (at least according to Tom Wayland, the voice director, who told me a few years ago that it's 52-episode run was seen as too short by companies they pitched the show to).

Also, not sure if it matters, but we do have the manga back in print here with a new omnibus translation from Kodansha USA. It was apparently a hit for Tokyopop back in the day, enough for Kodansha to bring it back.

Like I said, the show has never been huge, and I myself only really like it for nostalgia, but... I do think there is a small niche market for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:22 pm Reply with quote
With the remakes, my favorite kind are ones that are not as faithful to the original (like the eva movies-excluding the first one). It gives the already established fans something new and at the same time gets more people to go back and watch the original (not that anyone can say the eva tv series is overlooked). I would like to see perhaps more shows with a retold version of the same story that would also be unique, in particular i'm thinking that they could do something like the Utena and Escaflowne movies, but for a TV broadcast. I am so far a little disappointed with Sailor Moon Crystal because that's what I was hoping for (even though I knew that's not what we were going to get).

And if there is ever a release of Tokyo Mew Mew in a DVD collection they really need a headline like, "This is totally like Sailor Moon I swear!!"

MMP forever.
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zeo1fan



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:22 pm Reply with quote
GVman wrote:
As far as Pretty Cure goes, I generally get the feeling that there's a number of folks here ready to spend oodles of money on it the moment it gets licensed. Hell, it was the only Magical Girl series I saw get discussed with any kind of regularity over the past few years.


Really? Has no one been discussing Madoka Magica? Or Prisma Illya?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:30 pm Reply with quote
If marketed right I could definitely see Precure getting some amount of popularity. I mean, it's not like MLP where the whole fandom is a sinking ship because the popularity originated from some ironic joke on 4chan gone horribly wrong when people took it seriously. It's actually a mainstream thing over there and it's been going strong for 10 whole years.

Even though they obviously tried very hard MLP didn't do so good when they marketed it to children and otaku in Japan and even in west it's just a niche following of children and manchildren. If you take something like Precure which is actually a big thing and market it right then it wouldn't be too much a stretch to expect some sort of following.

After all, Toei have made almost no attempt to market it to us yet there's always a Precure general thread on /a/ with lots of discussion going on. Sure not all of them are going to spend heaps on merchandise but I think I speak for many people in the fanbase when I say I want it to be a thing and I personally wouldn't hesitate to throw my money in the general direction of whoever dubs it so long as it was competently done at the very least. Not to mention the show's got a lot of great moral lessons and action scenes which put battle shonen anime like Naruto and Bleach to shame without the need for gratuitous violence.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:33 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
They trialed the first season up in Canada, but given they haven't done anything else, I imagine it didn't go over too well.


That same dub also aired on PopGirl in the UK and Cartoon Network in Australia & New Zealand but yeah, Toei never did anything after that which is a shame because for a TV friendly dub, it was actually pretty good and also one of Blue Water's better efforts.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:16 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
They trialed the first season up in Canada, but given they haven't done anything else, I imagine it didn't go over too well.


YTV was mainly at fault for that, airing new episodes originally on Saturday around noon, but eventually moved to Weekdays 8:30AM for new episodes, roughly half an hour after kids normally left for school in my area.

It was at the time they were getting rid of all anime, aside from Pokemon and Beyblade (which are now no longer on the channel [after 16 years for Pokemon])

It was actually a solid dub for what it was worth. Aside from the name changes, the VAs were fairly solid. Definitely a shame they haven't done much with it as I wouldn't mind seeing those VAs in an anime series again. The dub actually got me into the franchise so there is that (and I'm not even in the target audience!)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:16 pm Reply with quote
unitmikey wrote:
With the remakes, my favorite kind are ones that are not as faithful to the original (like the eva movies-excluding the first one). It gives the already established fans something new and at the same time gets more people to go back and watch the original (not that anyone can say the eva tv series is overlooked). I would like to see perhaps more shows with a retold version of the same story that would also be unique, in particular i'm thinking that they could do something like the Utena and Escaflowne movies, but for a TV broadcast.


I am a fan of the concept of remakes. I like the idea of getting an old show that I enjoyed back in the SD/4:3 days reanimated with today's technology so that I can enjoy it all again with even more beauty. I also like the idea of taking a different route with the story, that brings something new to it. What I don't like is when they put together a choppy mess that is hardly even coherent unless you have seen the original. To me that eliminates the purpose of a remake entirely. If I can't show a remake to someone unfamiliar with the source material, it is a pointless product. Like you mentioned, the 1st rebuild movie is pretty much a perfect example of that. I can't show someone that movie if they haven't seen the show because it just skims over a ton of important world and character-building, making much of what follows hard to make sense of.


As far as checking my disks, I generally just take them all out, look at them in the light to see if there are any scratches or dust, and if they are clean, I put them away unless I want to watch them at that moment. If there is a scratch, I will usually put it in the player and let it play for a while while I do something else.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:22 pm Reply with quote
Tokyo Mew Mew can happen if Anime Sols gets with the program. And I guess if Toei threw its hat into the Sols ring, then Pretty Cure might be viable here.

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That said, Toei Animation controls all of those shows, and they are among the more shrewd and inventive when it comes to selling their shows to an international market.


No, they're not. They're greedy effing morons, which is why One Piece tanked over here when they let 4Kids have it-because they were too short-sighted to realize that FUNi was the better choice for it. And letting S'More have Bobobo and GE999 instead of Discotek was another terrible decision. But they have all that tokusatsu and shonen cash, so they don't care if they blow it here.

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On the one hand I am happy that a lot of these classic series like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Hunter x Hunter, Berserk, Sailor Moon among many others are introducing a new generation of anime fans to the material with less filler, better fight scenes/choreography and art direction than the originals in most cases.


Berserk's a terrible example of an anime reboot you should be excited about. Laughing

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(And to wit, the latest Spiderman movie was a disappointment at the box office, causing Sony to delay future installments.)


Actually, it did make money. Sony's just tired of it, and wants to bet on spin-offs, instead.

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and I'd be hardpressed to find anyone that actually prefers the uneven 90s OAV stories to the new reboot.


I prefer the OAVs, because they keep the dragged-out moments from the manga down to a minimum. And it feels like you're watching a real Western-type stand-off in the fight scenes. None of that annoying peanut gallery commentary you get from too many shonen stories.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:27 pm Reply with quote
Magical girl seems like a tough sell in America. There's a stigma for animation aimed at girls and the whole mantra of girls don't watch cartoons. It'd be a tough sell to networks to try to air them.

The shows themselves would probably be problematic for American audiences as well. Despite Ojamajo Doremi's sugary appearance, it deals with some of the most raw, mature subject material out there. Suicide, dealing with cancer, miscarriages, racism, and other topics kids might experience during their life. To this day I'm amazed 4Kids even attempted to license it. I assume they never actually watched it before they brought it over.

Pretty Cure would just be a licensing nightmare. Funi and Viz have a hard enough time releasing all the One Piece and Naruto OVAs and movies here (we still have yet to receive all of them, or even most) Pretty Cure's are more relevant than those, since they have cross-over movies and movies which sometimes tie into the series itself. You kind of have to watch them when they come out since they're very time-sensitive, no sense in watching a crossover between two teams before the second team's series gets released here.. or four series after.

Jewelpet also deals with some questionable subject matter as well. Incest, sex, depression, and lots of jokes that have to be censored for American kids. All the pop-culture references also might cause licensing issues, since they use actual music in their show like songs from The Beatles, Aerosmith, and other popular bands from around the world. Without permission, I assume

Other currently big girl properties like Aikatsu and Pretty Rhythm might have too much cultural difference. Idol culture doesn't really exist in America, nor the style of toys that those series promote. They could try to push the singing ala Disney's Hannah Montana style, but I'm not sure if it'd work.

Unfortunately, shoujo anime is a tough sell in America.

-Stuart Smith
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:29 pm Reply with quote
GVman wrote:
As far as Pretty Cure goes, I generally get the feeling that there's a number of folks here ready to spend oodles of money on it the moment it gets licensed. Hell, it was the only Magical Girl series I saw get discussed with any kind of regularity over the past few years.


I'd buy Heartcatch Precure in a heartbeat if it was licensed.
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