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MsCongeniality
Posts: 14 Location: Midnight Ocean |
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Wait...what? Five months between volumes 2 and 3 of Kaze Hikaru is putting the graphic novels out more quickly? I'll believe it when the release date for volume 4 is announced. |
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ChikaraFire
Posts: 16 Location: the great white north |
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Personally I like Vampire Knights better
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ryusaki
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I got a question,whats the difference between The Cain Saga,and Count Cain?
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HitokiriShadow
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Count Cain is the first potion of the series that comes before Godchild. The Cain Saga could either be another name for that or a name for the whole series (CC and GC combined).
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LordRobin
Posts: 354 Location: Akron, OH |
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I don't read Shojo Beat, but if I did, this would infuriate me. I don't pay good money for a magazine just to have to pay even more money if I want to continue to follow a story. If all that magazine is previews for trade paperbacks, it should be free.
------RM |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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jgreen
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Uh....what? The first year's worth of Shojo Beat would have cost you $30 to subscribe to and had 2-3 trades' worth of 6 different series, which would have cost you almost 4 times as much to buy as trades that would have been printed at half the size. Plus, Shojo Beat has articles included in it that explain some of the historical meaning behind things from Kaze Hikaru and Godchild that aid quite a bit in one's enjoyment of the series therein. I understand why they rotate in new series (so that new readers can start something from the beginning rather than be expected to hop on at part 14 of every series in the magazine), even though, as a fan, it does frustrate me a bit. I'd rather they choose a short series (1-2 trades long), let that run its course, and then replace it with another similarly short series, or maybe alternate series by story arc (like they did with A, A' and Ogre Slayer waaaaaay back in the day in Manga Vizion). Just my two cents.... |
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Malintex Terek
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There's a positive correlation between Shounen Jump serials and media exposure/placement in manga, so I would ask those who read Shoujo Beat; was this "Godchild" manga at a critical pivotal point in the plot? If so, then Viz is just seeking to force its customers to purchase the more expensive tankobans at a so-called "more rapid" pace. If not, I doubt this manga was very popular.
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mokitty
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I can't comment on Godchild, since it never really seemed to me like there was an overriding plot in it (it was much more an episodic, baddie-of-the-week type series in my opinion), but Kaze Hikaru's last serialized chapter unarguably ended at what appears poised to be the first big twist in the story, the beginning of the real action. Many have commented that Kaze Hikaru was at times rather dull, so that may have something to do with its removal from the magazine, but I would argue that all they actually printed of it in the magazine (at least until about the last two issues) was the set up for the real story, and now just as it's finally getting interesting, they're removing it from the mag. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many stories have been removed from Shonen Jump before completion? Admittedly I don't follow SJ magazine, but as far as I know Kenshin hung in there for all 28 volumes, and its trade paperbacks seemed to come out far more "quickly" (or at least much more frequently) than any other series I've ever read. I'm just wondering if the idea to "periodically switch out stories to keep the magazine fresh" (a wording which I find somewhat amusing with the magazine having existed barely more than a year and the only two switches being done so close together) is something that's isolated to Shojo Beat? |
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pathetic1
 Posts: 25 Location: PA |
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Agreed. That's why I didn't renew my subscription. It seemed less like a magazine and more like a gigantic advertisement for their much pricier GNs. I personally think licensing short series and one-shots would be much more interesting than running only bits and pieces of 10+ volume series, but what do I know? 
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Malintex Terek
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Yeah, that sounds like an ol' corporate dirty tricks; drop a serialised product at an important plot point to force fans to purchase the more expensive versions of that product.
I do not have my data on hand, as Arlong Park is currently experiencing downtime. However, from memory, Dragonball Z was prematurely removed from the monthly serials allegedly for the same reason as Godchild, but I noticed that its final chapter (April 2005) coincided with the transition from daily Toonami broadcasts to the more familiar Saturday night primetime (also in April 2005). Dragonball Z's redundant fighting was made more bearable by the weekly broadcats; Toonami recognised this and removed it from their Saturday schedule. Additionally, regarding Kenshin, there was a Jump cover in 2005 (September, I think) advertising Kenshin even though that manga was never serialised in the American Shounen Jump. What I discovered was that Kenshin was just starting the infamous "Revenge Arc" when that cover appeared, an arc which was not animated by Studio Deen and therefore was never seen before in the West. For more recent phenomenon, One Piece and Naruto are appearing more frequently on the covers, reflecting their weekly timeslots on the Saturday night bloc.
Shoujo Beat has suffered more droppings than Shounen Jump, and I'm not surprised; though growing, the female demographic for manga isn't exactly consistent, so Viz tries to do what it can to pull in solid sales. |
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Wolverine Princess
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I heard that a male/male romance was developing between two of the characters right around the chapter they pulled it out at. |
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Buster Blader 126
 Posts: 1206 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada |
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Only DBZ was removed, but I don't think it started from Chapter 1 though (as the series was released straight to GN-format prior to the creation of SJ), so in terms of DBZ getting removed, I wouldn't think that it'd really matter that much. [semi-OT] Although, I think that a title needs to be taken out of SJ to speed up the releases. *Looks at YYH & Shaman King* With all this happening on Shojo Beat, it's a good thing that I didn't subscribe it. But was this announcement really that necessary, seeing as that we already know why it was being taken out? =\ |
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RabbitRevolution
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Naah, that's just the mangaka Kaori Yuuki messing with her readers' heads again.  She stated in a interview in her Angel Cage art book (it's available in English) that she didn't see Cain and Riff as a homosexual couple per se (I'm paraphrasing here). She said she was more interested in exploring twisted relationships like the master/servant one between Cain and Riff than about creating romance in this case. There's plenty of BL subtext in Godchild (and as a BL fan that makes me happy  ), but based on this interview I'm pretty sure we're not going to see any real developing romantic relationship between Cain and Riff in future vols. So honestly I don't think that Viz pulled Godchild out of the magazine at a critical point. Like KH, it wasn't one of the more popular SB magazine series (although I enjoyed Godchild and adored KH), so Viz probably thought that pulling it would not significantly affect sales numbers.
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Wolverine Princess
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Since I was only reading the magazine for Godchild, Nana, and Kaze Hikaru, they definitely lost this reader. |
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