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agila61
Posts: 3213 Location: NE Ohio |
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Maybe, maybe not. But there are less damaging ways to get bootlegs than predatory scumbag manga viewer sites (and did I mention that they are scumbag sites?). If the source generates revenue from you getting the bootlegs, that site is always a malignant cancer in the market, either in reality or in potential. |
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rockman nes
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Ditto. |
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The Unknown 24
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The only manga that I read online is Kamen Rider Spirits.
I'm a big Kamen Rider fan of both showa and heisei eras. I wish there was a way for the manga industry to allow some mangas to get published in both language and made available for sale to both countries thru " on demand" ! Meaning they could print it in your language if you ordered it from them. Kinda like what MGM is starting to do with older tv shows that do not sell a lot of. You order the tv show on demand and they burn it to dvd for you and charge you for it before they burn it to disc. Example: link below http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2010/06/09/johnny-sokko-and-his-flying-robot-coming-to-mgm-dvd-on-demand/ Hopefully one day something will work out to please both the companies and the manga collectors. This is just a though and ideal to share. |
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FMABleach
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, Paploo. I'll be sure to buy all the manga and support the artists. And I'll check out the sites as well and see what all they have. Again thanks for the help.
Oh ok, I understand better now. Thanks agila61 for your help. |
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agila61
Posts: 3213 Location: NE Ohio |
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The hold up there is not only getting agreements sorted out to handle the differences between Print on Demand and conventional publishing ... its also that only recently has Print on Demand reached the level of greyscale quality to handle black and white art books. But its a natural partner to online distribution, especially since in a growing number of countries, Amazon will handle Print on Demand from order through to delivery. |
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Drunk_Samurai
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They really won't. If one site gets shut down then 3 others will replace it. Or else everybody will go through IRC and IM.
Regardless of what you think you don't need to buy something in order to be a fan of something.
I certainly hope so. They are a [expletive] piece of shit site that ruin manga artwork by plastering them with watermarks. |
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enurtsol
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Not everybody. Lot of people out there aren't really that tech/net savvy or can't be bothered too much unless it's easy. You overestimate people's commitments.
True, but you do have to care about the health of your hobby. |
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erilot
Posts: 25 Location: INDIANA |
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What other sites have been shut down? I am glad about Mangafox which I stopped using months ago since it killed my computer too many times, but I do use some other sites. I hope they can come up with some solution to be able to read online and provide more manga.
Most of the manga I read online is not licensed in the US and will never be licensed here, so it is my only source of reading series. I also like the convience that if I am not home (like at a hotel) I can still read manga without clogging my luggage with books. I only buy the series I really like and will read many times. I like cashing out my credit card points for Amazon certificates, I have $100 right now to spend and just need to decide what to buy. There is more I want that I can afford. I do know so many people just read online and never purchase anything. I admit I am very poor these days. I don't spend my money on video games or other stuff since I have a house with a mortgage, but most of my money goes to pay for needed items. I do try and support the industry when I can, but I just can't as much as I wish I could. Hopefully we can come to some solution to make everybody happy. I would pay a monthly fee if I could read manga online since it saves trees since I won't be buying a paper copy that will just collect dust, plus might be cheaper. Sigh, I am sure this is what we will see all summer. |
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cupguin
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*sighs* When I was young I had to walk two miles up hill, both ways, to download my manga and even then it was still dial-up. That and I had figured out that fans are people that want more of something and the only way to get more of something is to pay the people who make that something. If all fans turned into leechers tomorrow then there would be no market and the people who make manga (there's quite a few of them involved in those manga things people seem to think are worthless) would go do something else because they no longer have a job. What with everyone ending up on the street with no money for their families if they all decide to take up making manga as a hobby instead of as their job. At the moment real fans are forced to support the leechers. Enough of ranting though. If every win by the coalition makes me this happy I'm going to end up sending them a muffin basket or get them a subscription to fruit of the month or something. Maybe Hallmark could make a "Thanks for that, we hate those sites too" line of cards. |
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Farix
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I personally doubt that if one site goes down, other sites will pop up in it's place. Setting up a website with such a large collections as MangaFox and OneManga is not easy, requires quite a bit of know-how, and needs constant updating. And if your are even successful, you only make yourself the next target. As for going to IRC or IM, only a small percentage will. And neither of these methods are easy to use. The object here isn't to completely stamp out piracy, but to make it more of a bother to access.
In the same vain. If you are a fan, you would also want to support the creators so that they will continue producing the manga series that you are a fan of. |
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aereus
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What do you mean it killed your computer? Does it have viruses in banner ads or something? Use Firefox with NoScript and Adblock Plus -- you will no longer see ads, and don't enable the scripts with NoScript for any of the banner or other ad/tracking sites. Should never get your computer infected that way then, basically. |
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RestLessone
Posts: 1426 Location: New York |
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I have some doubts that three will spring up for every aggregator down. Those sites need a lot of room and popularity to compete. As soon as they do become popular, then everyone knows about them. These aren't teams of scanlators with relatively unknown series--these are aggregators putting out everything, even stealing material from English companies.
I only know of is this and MangaHelpers. MH is the one attempting to convert to a legal format by acquiring author's permission. No one knows how well that will turn out, and one can only think that the series will be from unpublished artists hoping to catch a deal. People thought MangaTraders was affected, but it appeared to be just a server/hard drive issue. Though, hopefully they'll go next...And OneManga and MangaHut. Apparently some smaller scanlation groups are going, too, though not because they've been contacted; they just don't want to deal with it or are afraid. Last edited by RestLessone on Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:09 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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erilot
Posts: 25 Location: INDIANA |
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@aereus- I have used Firefox for years and tried the noscript, but then Facebook is a pain to use. I just got tired of all the trojans on this MF. It crashed my work computer twice and the first time was so bad I had to get a new laptop. It crashed my home computer twice and forced me to do a complete reload of my operating system. So I no longer use. Plus, I did noticed they upload many series that were not scanlations but just copies of the US versions which I did not like.
So stopped using MF months ago, only use Onemanga to read online or Mangatraders to download. I need to get back to using IRC since I used to always use that in the past and I really liked it. I will be keeping an eye on ANN for news since I see there DMP is going to offer stuff online which is great! |
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SD Maruko-kun
Posts: 26 Location: Netherlands |
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Erm, didn't you just describe exactly what Crunchyroll did? (first making profit from fansubs, then becoming a legal streaming site)
Why don't the mangaka, anime studio's and other creative generators of "data" set up some kind of micropayment donations system, so they can get some euros/dollars/yens as donation from people when something isn't licenced in the western world or if someone can't/won't spend a few dozen euros/dollars on a manga/anime series, but does want to spend a bit to support their favorite artist? |
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matrixdude
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They don't do that because the studio's and manga publishers want to keep a tight leash on their mangaka so that they don't leave and start up somewhere else (or god forbid, on their own). And on a side note, it looks like onemanga may have finally been taken down. |
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