Forum - View topicLelouch, dead or alive?
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GeassedbyLelouch
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Now that the third and final of the new Code Geass movies has been released (in Japanese theaters), it's a good opportunity to address the great debate which has surrounded the anime for over a decade: Lelouch, dead or alive?
For those who are unaware, there are several fan theories which assume that Lelouch has gained immortality at the end of the show and thus survived his death. But is this theory what actually happened or is it tinfoil? Therefore a compilation of all the information we have has been made: all the official statements, from old interviews to very recent tweets, the official guide book, live commentaries, the new epilogue from the official ZR movie blu-ray, etc. Additionally, code theory's points have been scrutinized to see how they hold up against these official statements and against the anime itself. The resulting text is quite large, as there is a lot of official information about Lelouch's fate, and code theory has a lot of various points, and the compilation text is as thorough and complete as possible. The text is, however, well worth reading for all Code Geass fans. You can find the full text here. For those who want a TLDR: - Lelouch has been officially confirmed dead many, many times - There have been interviews where the creators have explicitly denied some key points of code theory - Code theory is contradicted by the anime itself as it violates the lore of the anime. I do, however, strongly recommend reading the full text, as it has all the argumentation and sources. And finally, regarding the sequel which is confirmed to follow the new movies and not the original series: it is true that the sequel is an AU, however it is important to note that spoiler[Lelouch's fate is unaltered in the movies, Zero requiem still happens and he still dies, the changes in the movies are not directly related to Lelouch himself,] and thus these statements about R2's ending are still very much relevant |
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Mugen1style
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I will admit being surprised by the ending of the show I was like WTH but then I remember seeing a ton of Kung fu movies where the hero dies in the end so I was okay with it after getting over the initial shock. Lets face it he is dead there is no question.there really wasn't any hints that I can remember that he might have lived. Its not like Dio in Last Exile where you hear his voice after you think he died. If he were to be in existence it would be on the spiritual side which would still mean he is dead. I mean ghosts are dead so yeah he's gone.
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GeassedbyLelouch
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It's true, if they wanted us to know he was immortal they would have given a clear hint.
Now people resort to arguments such as "they don't show his neck as emperor, that MUST mean his code symbol is there, that PROVES he's immortal". They're twisting a lack of information (such as not seeing his neck) into alleged "proof", whereas it normally would have been the other way around, only if they showed part of a code symbol on his neck could you see that as proof. |
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