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ParaChomp
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:07 pm
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Remember kids, smoking is only cool if you're a fictional character.
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cloud8100
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:10 pm
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I never understood why people thought smoking looked cool. Its just someone... smoking...
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Shadowrun20XX
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:13 pm
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California has tried really hard to stop Vegas from smoking which is a hilarious feat considering what Sin City stands for.
I enjoyed smoking Malboro Reds but it became an annoyance when I had to find time to smoke, taxes on cigarettes and then I just didn't care for it anymore.
After a few years you can definitely smell a smoker from across the room.
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TheRahi00
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:13 pm
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Personally I also agree with the fact that smoking does make a character looks cooler. Not exactly sure why and I personally really hate it when people smoke in real life, but it's different in anime.
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:16 pm
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I do not know if it was the tv station or the government, but jotaro's face was censored (using a black brush) when he smoked in Jojo's bizarre adventure (which is a very well known series) broadcast. I doubt this was an individual exerting his power, so at some level there is a ban on smoking (by non adult characters) in new animes.
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BVerfG
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:29 pm
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I don't think there is anything wrong with showing someone smoking. And yeah, some characters look cooler. The only time I can remember that I went "wait. What?" because of a smoking character was in The Wind Rises. The main character just continues chain smoking while in the same room as his coughing wife who has tuberculosis. I mean, really?
Otherwise nothing wrong with it. Worse things have been shown and glorified on TV. In Germany there are alcohol commercials that a) air during Formula 1 commercial breaks and b) purport that every beer case you buy will help save some part of rain forest. Captain Smoker and Kogoro are the least of my worries.
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ParaChomp
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:30 pm
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The fact that it could kill me was drilled into my head with my grade school's drug prevention program. The fact that my grandparents were smokers who both came down with Alzheimer's was the icing on the cake. As an asthmatic, I can't stand around smokers without breaking into a cough.
Despite this, I do find that smoking does make people look cool in media (cartoon or live action). Casually putting oneself at risk and the sight of breath is very intimidating. Despite this effect, Americans ban smoking from media because it is a bad influence that doesn't make you look cool in practice.
Keeping in mind that Japan is Japan and hasn't caught up with the rest of the world, it all makes sense.
By the way, nice choice for the image.
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Touma
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:42 pm
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Greed1914 wrote: | The main situation where smoking sticks out to me in anime is when we see a character exercising and then lighting up right after their workout. The contradiction between the two activities always seemed like an odd writing choice. |
It is not just a writing choice. That does happen in real life.
Not all smokers will light up after exercise, but many do. I did before I quit smoking.
It is not really a good idea to do so because nicotine is a powerful stimulant and not something that you need when your pulse and respiration are already elevated by the exercise, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. That could be said of smoking in general.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:44 pm
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I don't mind smoking in anime, smoking happens in real life and it isn't illegal for adults to smoke in Japan or the US.
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wonderwomanhero
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:51 pm
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Ritsuko Akagi smoking in Evangelion never really bothered me. I think she smoked to relive stress, and in one particular scene you see cigarette butts on her ashtray stained by her lipstick.
There really is a broad difference in opinion with smoking amongst "good" and "bad" smokers. Smoking is smoking, so there really is no good or bad. Bad maybe in terms of damaging your health, but its your choice. I hate it. But I will not pressure someone to quit unless I know for a fact they are in serious danger.
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ReifuTD
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:17 pm
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wonderwomanhero wrote: | Ritsuko Akagi smoking in Evangelion never really bothered me. I think she smoked to relive stress, and in one particular scene you see cigarette butts on her ashtray stained by her lipstick.
There really is a broad difference in opinion with smoking amongst "good" and "bad" smokers. Smoking is smoking, so there really is no good or bad. Bad maybe in terms of damaging your health, but its your choice. I hate it. But I will not pressure someone to quit unless I know for a fact they are in serious danger. |
At one point people in America people was allowed to put any substance in their body they wanted, The main reason these first kind of laws where past was because white people thought black people were getting high and rapping white people. Now it has to do with taxes I think.
Before if you had substance issues you go to or get sent to a clinic to detox or better your self. Now people just go to jail and learn to become criminals.
Don't get me wrong if drugs were legal we probable might have some more drugged out homeless people. But less people with criminal record that could get good jobs and stuff.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:28 pm
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ParaChomp wrote: | Remember kids, smoking is only cool if you're a fictional character. |
Provided you're not an underage character in anime.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:39 pm
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BadNewsBlues wrote: |
ParaChomp wrote: | Remember kids, smoking is only cool if you're a fictional character. |
Provided you're not an underage character in anime. |
I don't think there are any lolis or shota characters outside of the ones that are over 20 that smoke.
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zrnzle500
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:10 pm
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Hoppy800 wrote: |
BadNewsBlues wrote: |
ParaChomp wrote: | Remember kids, smoking is only cool if you're a fictional character. |
Provided you're not an underage character in anime. |
I don't think there are any lolis or shota characters outside of the ones that are over 20 that smoke. |
I think they meant under the smoking age not the age of consent. Someone else mentioned the scene in Stardust Crusaders where Jotaro is smoking being censored. Also the reason behind high school age anime characters getting drunk on "juice"
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:12 pm
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zrnzle500 wrote: |
I think they meant under the smoking age not the age of consent. Someone else mentioned the scene in Stardust Crusaders where Jotaro is smoking being censored. |
Yep .
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