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dojikyo
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:02 pm
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darkside31337 wrote: |
tamaneko wrote: |
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It's kind of a letdown, doing a cool promotion for such a meh anime (imo). Geneon has licensed much better shows as of late. |
GTFO. "Better shows" like Disgaea? Rozen Maiden is one of the top-10 most popular animes in Japan in recent times and there is FAR more fanart for the show than any other series ever created, so, yeah, what a big letdown for them to license such a boring show... |
Popularity doesn't determine the value of a show (especially that in another country). The show's storyline is terrible, the characters especially that of your typical dorky male protagonist are stupid and it's just not going to work in america. It's a niche show, and that niche isn't big. Traumend aint happening unless they picked it up already.
Anything else that was rumored (like Nana) would have definitely been better, and I wasn't specifically talking about Disgaea, although it's better then this dump . |
Typical dorky male protagonist are pretty common. I don't remember too many dorky male protagonist that are crippled by their fear of other peoples. The other recent series that had a hikkimori in the lead was Welcome to the NHK. The show's storyline is pretty much Highlander with dolls and I liked the first Highlander. Nana is in a league of its own but the length of the series makes it more likely Viz will license it.
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bci110
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:16 pm
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All I have to say about this announcement is this: FINALLY!!!!!
I wonder why it took Geneon so bloody long to acquire this title. From what I've been reading, it looks like that they have both the first series and Träumend, but Ouverture remains unlicensed.
As for Shuffle, someone on the Anime on DVD forum mentioned that Kadokawa USA has it, but didn't contract it with anyone yet. I'm not completely sure if this is accurate or not, but I won't rule out the possibility that Shuffle might become a Geneon property very shortly.
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Thinkersblock07
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:47 pm
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Hearing the phrase "technical wizardry" I thought they were talking about Negima?! But after I turned my answers in, I noticed that Shuffle had fit more clues than Negima?! did. But then, after some deliberation, I finally realized it was Rozen Maiden.
Now like everyone else, I'm anxious to what the actual clues were and how many there were.
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Jedi General
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:51 pm
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ManSlayer07 wrote: |
darkside31337 wrote: |
tamaneko wrote: |
darkside31337 wrote: |
It's kind of a letdown, doing a cool promotion for such a meh anime (imo). Geneon has licensed much better shows as of late. |
GTFO. "Better shows" like Disgaea? Rozen Maiden is one of the top-10 most popular animes in Japan in recent times and there is FAR more fanart for the show than any other series ever created, so, yeah, what a big letdown for them to license such a boring show... |
Popularity doesn't determine the value of a show (especially that in another country). The show's storyline is terrible, the characters especially that of your typical dorky male protagonist are stupid and it's just not going to work in america. It's a niche show, and that niche isn't big. Traumend aint happening unless they picked it up already.
Anything else that was rumored (like Nana) would have definitely been better, and I wasn't specifically talking about Disgaea, although it's better then this dump . |
I third that opinion. I want Geneon to get Nana (and Ouran licensed too but by TRSI). I hope Geneon does a good job with RM but here's hoping to some better licenses (they already lost Honey and Clover). |
I'll "fourth" that. I don't really like Rozen Maiden that much either. I thought it was rather boring after a few episodes, so I stopped watching. It's funny that you mentioned Disgaea because I love Disgaea! It's way better than RM in my opinion. Oh, and I was hoping for Nana (and possibly Ouran) to too. Seems that we agree on a few things.
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Cosfu
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:55 pm
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the_silent_child
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:08 pm
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I thought it was Rozen Maiden first... then they kept talking about gods and demons and shuffling things around.... Stupid. Get Shuffle! instead.
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bravejaf
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:27 pm
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b4k4ni04 wrote: |
Buster Blader 126 wrote: | The "all dolled up" (or something along those lines) statement at the very beginning of the podcast pretty much gave it away. If any Rozen Maiden fan didn't clue in on that clue, I wouldn't know what to say.
And I assume that they didn't license Träumend. All in due time, I say. |
o_o.. i completely missed that. Hmph, my first guess was Nana, what with the late news appearing about it's potential american liscence. but the "how many? 7??" and the gift of a rose sealed it for me. the 7 was WAY too conspicuous ;. at least in my opinion. |
The 7 was a clue, just not in the way you thought. It was one of the clues I picked up that led me to Rozen Maiden.
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evilnekohilda
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:35 pm
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Aw man TT____TT I didn't even bother doing the contest because I figured it would be an anime I didn't know... But I'm one of the biggest Rozen Maiden nerds around v_v;;; ARGH!!
Oh well, I'm still super happy that RM will be getting a release here. I think that those who think the plot/characters are poorly written maybe didn't give the show enough of a chance... Sure there are plenty of little things one could pick on, but the same goes for 98% of anime series out today :P
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Cheesemon
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:53 pm
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britannicamoore wrote: | I was thinking The Rose of Versailles (sp). What with all the flowers in the opening and the conflicts with politics and such. Plus at 40 eps I thought it could hit 5 eps a DDVD and = the volume 8 he mentioned. Oh well. |
Heh, glad I wasn't the only person who thought Rose of Versailles. Of course, I only listened to the first 10 minutes where I heard "Rose" and one guy saying "Vessals" over and over.
Would've never guessed Rozen Maiden since I've never heard of it. Is it that popular in the fansub community that most people know it? Otherwise, this would be a very hard contest.
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tamaneko
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:06 am
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ManSlayer07 wrote: |
darkside31337 wrote: |
darkside31337 wrote: |
Popularity doesn't determine the value of a show (especially that in another country). The show's storyline is terrible, the characters especially that of your typical dorky male protagonist are stupid and it's just not going to work in america. It's a niche show, and that niche isn't big. Traumend aint happening unless they picked it up already.
Anything else that was rumored (like Nana) would have definitely been better, and I wasn't specifically talking about Disgaea, although it's better then this dump . |
I third that opinion. I want Geneon to get Nana (and Ouran licensed too but by TRSI). I hope Geneon does a good job with RM but here's hoping to some better licenses (they already lost Honey and Clover). |
I'll "fourth" that. I don't really like Rozen Maiden that much either. I thought it was rather boring after a few episodes, so I stopped watching. It's funny that you mentioned Disgaea because I love Disgaea! It's way better than RM in my opinion. Oh, and I was hoping for Nana (and possibly Ouran) to too. Seems that we agree on a few things. |
Jesus H. Christ... I can't believe you're all actually serious...
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evilnekohilda
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:08 am
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Cheesemon wrote: |
britannicamoore wrote: | I was thinking The Rose of Versailles (sp). What with all the flowers in the opening and the conflicts with politics and such. Plus at 40 eps I thought it could hit 5 eps a DDVD and = the volume 8 he mentioned. Oh well. |
Heh, glad I wasn't the only person who thought Rose of Versailles. Of course, I only listened to the first 10 minutes where I heard "Rose" and one guy saying "Vessals" over and over. :P
Would've never guessed Rozen Maiden since I've never heard of it. Is it that popular in the fansub community that most people know it? Otherwise, this would be a very hard contest. |
It's got a pretty okay following in fansubs. It's got a BIG following in Japan, though for a number of semi-legitimate reasons... XD
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Wyvern
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:14 am
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darkside31337 wrote: |
tamaneko wrote: |
darkside31337 wrote: |
It's kind of a letdown, doing a cool promotion for such a meh anime (imo). Geneon has licensed much better shows as of late. |
GTFO. "Better shows" like Disgaea? Rozen Maiden is one of the top-10 most popular animes in Japan in recent times and there is FAR more fanart for the show than any other series ever created, so, yeah, what a big letdown for them to license such a boring show... |
Popularity doesn't determine the value of a show (especially that in another country). The show's storyline is terrible, the characters especially that of your typical dorky male protagonist are stupid and it's just not going to work in america. It's a niche show, and that niche isn't big. Traumend aint happening unless they picked it up already.
Anything else that was rumored (like Nana) would have definitely been better, and I wasn't specifically talking about Disgaea, although it's better then this dump . |
I like how you tell us popularity and quality have nothing to do with each other, and then you go on to say that this show will not be popular due to its lack of quality.
Also, Jun is far from the "typical dorky protagonist." The show's biggest strength, in my opinion, is that it portrays socially inept, terminally geeky teenagers as they actually are, rather than how they wish they were. Jun isn't a sweet, nice quiet guy whom every woman instantly and inexplicably falls in love with, and he doesn't have amazing superpowers that put everyone else to shame. He's an anti-social shut-in who hates people and is pretty darn unlikeable at first, and the entire first season is mainly about him learning to go out into the world and be a nice guy again.
You could make an argument about the doll angle being kind of silly, but you eschewed that completely to instead attack the thing that most sets the series apart. That, coupled with the fact that your other criticisms have a distinctly generic ring to them, leads me to the conclusion that you've never even seen this show and are just one of those people who mindlessly dislikes anything popular.
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IvoryBirch
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:20 am
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I thought it was Maria-sama ga Miteru at first, but I later realized it was Rozen Maiden. Well, I'm not too fond of RM, but I suppose that's beyond the point.
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elsa
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:32 am
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I, too, thought "lol, doll animu", when I first heard about it.
Then I watched it.
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liloaznangel
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:56 am
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yay it's finally been announced officially. now i'm gonna post what i had submitted (more or less) so people who KNOW Rozen Maiden can tell how much i got right. please bear in mind, inever seen the show, i just know enough based off what i've seen in pictures and what otherpeople have said ^^; that's why i'm posting it to see if i wasn't pulling some BS clues 'cause i didn't know better.
-"All DOLLed up" @ 00:05
-"ROSE" @ 02:26
-"How many do you have, SEVEN?" @ 02:35
-"'cause that's what ANGELs do, they ASSASINATE." @ 06:39
-"Can you ORDER THINGS ONLINE?" ... "You can ORDER ANYTHING ONLINE" @ 09:09
-"It's so easy to ORDER THINGS ONLINE" ... "I've ORDED so much for ME" @ 09:36
-"Everyone should have their own VASSEL." ... "People that have to SERVE others." ... "GIVES ORDERS TO, DO WHATEVER YOU SAY, feed us" @ 10:36
-"You said that there were TWELVE EPISODES... I've noticed that alot of NEW SHOWs have only TWELVE EPISODES per SEASON" @ 11:34
-"FIRST SEASON IS TWELVE EPISODES, SECOND SEASON IS TWELVE EPISODES." @ 12:02
-"Is trying to SUCCEED FATHER's throne" ... "ALONG WITH MANY OTHER..." @ 13:41
-"Speaking of BOXING THINGS"..."'cause ALL GOOD THINGS COME IN BOXES" @ 16:31
-"IT'S NOT A POLARIZING SERIES, WHERE THERE A VILLAIN AND A GOOD GUY, THEY ARE ALL TRYING THEIR BEST" @ 19:06
-"Vanilla with PEACH" @ 20:51
-"The only things that count ARE UNDER FOUR FEET TALL" @ 22:55
i had reasonings why i picked them, but delted them in fear of sounding stupid, though i'll explain why i picked a quote if someone asks.
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